On the swirling tendencies of black women: Justifying their interracial relationships without being shamed like black men

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Note from BW of BrazilFor today’s material, we re-visit a topic that regular readers are very familiar with. This issue of black Brazilian women pointing the accusatory figure at black men seem to prefer developing long term relationships with white, or at least non-black women. The chosen term that these women use to describe these men is palmiteiro, which in English is translated as ‘hearts of palm’, the white, crunchy vegetable that comes from the center of a cabbage palm tree. The practice of exclusively dating white women is referred to as palmitagem. I’m not really sure how this term emerged. The only thing I can think of is sometime in 2014 when late night talk show host Danilo Gentili, a man who has been involved in a number of racial skirmishes in recent years, suggested that he was a victim of racism because people referred to him as palmito due to his white skin. Of course, the notion is ridiculous but this discussion of the term palmito referring to very white skin is the only thing I remember in which there was a discussion on race that was connected to the vegetable. In the US black community, in comparison, a black person who has dated whites is said to be “down with the swirl”.

Having covered this issue for a number of years going back maybe five years when many black women started making an issue of this, I noted that the debate was very one-sided. Black women calling out black men for their palmitagem while it seemed that black men were silent on the issue, at least in terms of writing texts about it. My policy on the issue after I noted how one-sided the discussion was, was that if there were black men who wanted to chime in on the issue, they would also have space to express their views on the topic. The response has been intriguing to say the least. We have articles from black men who tell us that black Brazilians as a whole need to acknowledge their palmitagem. There was one very well-written piece by a man who admitted to being a palmiteiro and how Brazilian culture played a huge influence on him becoming one and another text that pointed out the contradictions of black women blasting black men when black women seemed to have the same preference. I have known a number of black men, both Brazilians and foreigners living in Brazil, who have taken the same position as the latter. I agree with the first and third points and have respect for the self-reflection of the second.

Interestingly, I have also noted that a number of leading black feminists and black women who have attracted a decent number of subscribers to their YouTube channels are also matched up with white men, and in some cases, white women. When the topic has been palmitagem, the trend of black lesbians also pairing up with white women has come up in a number of discussions on this issue. Of course, a common response to so many black feminists and YouTubers hooking up with white men is that black men don’t want them, while white men are stepping up to the plate. While we know this is sometimes the case, this doesn’t deflect away from the point that we KNOW that many black women DO in fact have a preference for white men. Why deny this? Both black Brazilian men AND women grew up under a system that promotes white men and women as the most desirable option for long-term relationships and marriage plus the added “bonus” of whitening the offspring of black people.

Another aspect of this whole discussion is the fact that even within black LGBT community, we note that many black gays and lesbians also choose to mate with white partners. According to the logic of black feminists and lesbians, only black men have this predilection to choose white. But if we also see this trend among black lesbians, who would also apparently be conscious of palmitagem patterns among black men, how do we explain when we see black lesbians, who one would assume have consciousness of this issue of palmitagem, also choose to pass over other black women? Are we gonna deny the fact that whites aren’t the only ones who wonder how anyone could choose a black over a white?

But referring back to the first and third perspectives, for several months I’ve had my eyes on a particular black actress who has been slowly making a name for herself since her debut in a television series several years ago. I’ve always thought of the woman as one of the most beautiful in Brazil, black or white. In my opinion, the girl is an absolute stunner. But there’s one thing I’ve noticed about her since I first became familiar with her. In the time that she’s been a somewhat well-known public figure, I note that whenever she’s dating someone or rumored to be dating someone, he is always white. She’s been single for some time now and I was curious as to what the next guy she would hook up with might look like. To be honest, considering her pattern, I already knew. Well, recently said actress acknowledged having entered into another relationship. Guess what he looks like…

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About the palmitagem of the black woman

Courtesy of Voz Para Homens Negros

Palmitagem is a term created by black hysterical left-wing militants, to refer primarily to straight black men. Palmitagem is also a totalitarian way of pursuing and embarrassing black men who intend to be or who find themselves in an interracial relationship.

While remaining an individual right, there are many blacks who choose only interracial relationships. Being that the great majority of the black male public, when they have a certain social and financial distinction, ends up being in relationships with non-black women.

Bringing the issue to the equal footing. Black women also have the same behavior as black men by having a preference for interracial relationships. Black women, be they singers or artists in general, when they elevate socially, the overwhelm majority ends up entering an interracial relationship. But why is there not the same judgment and social demand of black women in relation to the persecution of the men?

Because there is a social prejudice against men, in which only they are responsible for everything bad, where they must assume all responsibility. Society sees a man as a feelingless being, who does not feel pain, so he must bear every burden, with no right to protest to expose his problem and frustration. When a man speaks of his frustration he is seen as weak, in addition to being branded as a male “mimimi” (whiners) by the fimivadias (feminists bitches).

These social problems of men, if it were in relation to women, would be seen as the fault of machismo or a patriarchal society. Since the period of slavery when rape was perpetuated by the slave masters, social relations in Brazil occurred largely between white men and black women.

Even during post-slavery this dynamic of relations of black women and white men continued. For it is more feasible for a black woman to have relations with white men, because they enjoy more social privileges and more favorable financial conditions. What is there to say about the many domestic servants who were often forced to have relations with their white bosses to keep their jobs, and often times this kind of relationship was consensual.

White men is also seen socially as more viable to have relations with and marry, to the detriment of the black man who os seen as irresponsible, violent and promiscuous.

The relationship of black men and white women to a large extent is very recent in relation to the white man and black woman that had been occurring since the beginning of colonization. Yes, we heard of cases of white women and black men, but on a very small scale, because men being slaves, there was a great stigma against black men, and those who got caught up with a white woman suffered brutal punishment and were even killed to serve as an example to others.

It is worth remembering that many black slaves died virgins. There existed the function of slave breeding, where few men among many were chosen, based on their physical size (good genetics), to exercise the exclusive function of generating new slaves. With this many black men had no access to black women, much less white women.

It’s important to emphasize that these hysterical and leftist black militants use this false discourse as a basis for becoming victims and thereby doing their militancy. Thus it guarantees more privileges for themselves, to the detriment of the black man and his image. What do black women militants want with this? Do they want to approve a law that guarantees a quota to have relations with men? Or it is a way of justifying their interracial relationships without being embarrassed like black men. Well, if it’s Leftist Femivadias, all kinds of bizarreness is possible.

I don’t want to validate interracial relationships with this post. On the contrary, interracial relationships lead to a degenerate society and cause a lot of problems for the black community. Everything the leftists want to continue with their policies.

I want to pass on with this post, that this fallacy of which the black men are Palmiteiros doesn’t hold up, passing on an image that only he is the villain. I also want to show that contrary to what is only shown, there are many more endogamous relationships in the black community than there are interracial relationships. The motives are obvious. They want to do militancy on top of interracial relationships, the examples they show are of singers and futebol players, and this specific type of case forms a small minority in the black community.

Unlike the hysterical black women, I try to focus on good examples.

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Source: Voz Para Homens Negros

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Marques Travae. For more on the creator and editor of BLACK WOMEN OF BRAZIL, see the interview here.

3 Comments

  1. First off, i think Black women and Black men swirl for different reasons. For most Black men, i think swirling is just a purely sexual thing but for Black women, it’s more about love. Of course, there are MANY exceptions to these rules. Whatever the reasons, i think both sides can be hypocrites for trying to place all of the blame on just one side for something that that can negatively affect Black people overall. I think most Black women have misdirected anger at Black men which is why they swirl as sort of a “revenge” tactic against us. At the end of the day, i think the psychological factors of swirling need to be explored more rather than just Black people blindly blaming each other for something that was forced on us through rapes during slavery.

  2. In response to your point, i thinmk for the afro-latino-native american male the reasons for “swirling” for is primarily “economic”…for black women as well, firstly economic; then you have the subconscious hate of her father figure…let’s say “love-hate, of her father figure..it is along these lines why balck females find them selves attracted to the thug-types, because that negativity is already ingrained( MUSIC, ART, NEWS ECT), and she can get the economic rewards from such a relationship, while at the same time knowing that the relationship shall, be short term due to the guys’ illegal activities….just my spin. be blest…AND GREAT ARTICLE SISTERS, KEEP UP THE GREAT WORK!

  3. interesting; i first would like to State that Crossbreeding seems to be on the rise everywhere (more black females with white males (unforced); than i have ever seen in My Life … Second; financial status seems to be the motivation more than anything else …. Black People seem to be willing to Sale Themselves no matter what the Times ….

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