November 20th, Day of Black Consciousness in Brazil: With political turn to the right, black activists see a threat of rolling back progress made in the past decade

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Day of Black Consciousness March in São Paulo. Photo courtesy of Mídia Ninja

Note from BW of Brazil: Today is the Day of Black Consciousness in Brazil, celebrated in hundreds of cities across the country. And while it remains an important symbol of the black struggle and a demonstration of the historical and cultural importance of the Afro-Brazilian community and the ongoing political struggle to attain social equality and minimize structurally racist inequalities, this year’s celebrations have taken on an even more political significance due to the political situation in the country that has taken a sharp turn to the right since the coup that led to the ouster of President Dilma Rousseff and 14 years of her party’s (PT or Workers’ Party) rule in the country.

The PT’s reign which, for many represented the first Brazilian government that attempted to balance out the country’s vast social/racial inequalities, and the movement and political agendas that led to the end of four straight terms of her party, has shown how deeply the country is divided along political lines, which in term reflect social and racial inequalities and divisions that one side (middle and upper classes) prefers to ignore or pretend don’t exist. And now with the chosen puppet in place to represent international interests (President Michel Temer) one can only imagine where the country will be headed in the next few years. 

With Rousseff and the PTs dismissal, social organizations have been fearing the worst as Temer’s administration has already begun making drastic cuts and sweeping changes of which the open objective seems to be the complete reversal of the direction in which the country was steered over the past 14 years. Recent municipal elections nationwide also seemed to be another signal that drastic changes will be coming to Brazil over the next few years. A few weeks back, we brought the story of the young, black city councilman elected in Brazil’s financial powerhouse of São Paulo and his declared goals of bringing an end to the system of quotas that were implemented more than a decade ago as well as the Day of Black Consciousness holiday. With the holiday having been overturned in another major capital city in the nation’s south, activists in São Paulo see the writing on the wall and saw in this year’s march the necessity of of galvonizing the troops for what may turn out to be a forminable challenge to a holiday that was such a hard fought achievement in the first place.

Military Police formed a barrier to separate the protest of the Movimento Brasil Livre from the Marcha of Black Consciousness

Vem Pra Rua and Movimento Brasil Livre call for mobilization on same date and time of the March of Black Consciousness in São Paulo

By Douglas Belchior

It is essential to mobilize as many blacks men and women and of the population as possible who defend the values of human rights and democracy, to be present on Sunday, November 20th, starting at 11am, but especially at 2 pm, at in beside the Masp musuem (Museu de Arte de São Paulo) on Avenida Paulista in São Paulo, at the March of the Black Consciousness.

In complete disregard for the tradition and symbolism of the celebration of the national day of black consciousness, the right-wing movements ‘Vem Pra Rua’ and ‘MBL’ (1) have convened an act and a congress for the same date, time and place as the March of Black Consciousness, in São Paulo.

The Vem Pra Rua (go to the streets) Movement, on its page with more than 1 million and 400 thousand followers, is calling for an act “in support of the Lava Jato operation and the 10 measures against corruption” for November 20, at 3 pm, in the space next to MASP, on the Avenida Paulista, at the same place and time of the beginning of of the 13th March of the Black Consciousness, promoted by the Movimento Negro (black movement).

Participants of various movements converged on Avenida Paulista today, November 20th, 2016

This same weekend, MBL – Movimento Brasil Livre (Free Brazil Movement) is promoting at the Hotel of Alameda Santos, two blocks from MASP, its National Congress, where it will present its bench of neo-liberal councilors to its followers, as well as count on the presence of the stars of the Brazilian reactionary and racist right, among them STF (Supreme Court) minister Gilmar Mendes, Secretary of Education, Mendonça Filho, SP’s elected mayor João Dória Junior, lawyer Janaína Pascoal and columnist Reinaldo Azevedo. Only the “good people”…

Racist agendas and risk of confrontation

Both the ‘Vem Pra Rua’ and the ‘MBL’ are mobilizing from the most hypocritical part of the upper middle class, those who beat the pots and pans (at protests) and uninformed young people, to the most backward sectors that even ask for military intervention in the country, with participation already proven by fascists and Neo-Nazis. They also stand out for the shameless and even violent way in which they expose their racism and their homophobia, both in the political defense that they make for the end of social policies such as the Bolsa Família, Prouni, Mais Médicos, racial quotas, LGBT rights, etc., and in the treatment of their employees and in the daily life of their relationships, especially in moments of meetings like that that should happen at MASP this Sunday.

Participants in the 2015 March of Black Consciousness in São Paulo.

Among the calls made for the Act, one of them refers to the fact that former President Lula has filed a request for the imprisonment of Federal judge Sérgio Moro, as shown below.

Lula’s lawyers accuse Moro of the abuse of authority and irregular conduct in the episodes of coercive conducting, search and seizure of documents in his residence and that of family members and illegal telephone interception (2).

March of Black Consciousness confirmed

Despite the convening of the demonstration by the rightwing movements and the risk of confrontation, the March of Black Consciousness reaffirms its peaceful and democratic character. The demonstration is maintained, confirmed for its concentration starting at 11am on Sunday, November 20th. Throughout the day there will be presentations of Afro-Brazilian cultural groups. At 3pm there should be an act with the presence of leaders of the movements and the beginning of the march towards the city’s downtown. .

Call your Family and friends and strengthen our mobilization!

Racist “courts” overturn Day of Black Consciousness in Porto Alegre, capital of Rio Grande do Sul

The day of November 20th is considered the day of Zumbi dos Palmares and Black Consciousness. In contrast to May 13th, the date of the signing of the false abolition of slavery (in 1888) and which is not claimed by the Movimento Negro, November 20th is marked by the death of Zumbi dos Palmares in 1695. Such a date is treated as a day to honor Zumbi, and all that he and so many other black people represent in the fight against racism. Such actions serve to strengthen beyond the calendars; our quilombos are still much needed to combat racism and capitalism.

By Alexandre Tubman

According to Federal Law 10.639, from January 9, 2003, November 20th is included as National Day of Black Consciousness on the school calendar. And Law 12. 519/2011, sanctioned by former president Dilma Rousseff, defines the date as a holiday but it is up to the municipalities to adopt them.

On Monday, November 7th, the Rio Grande do Sul Courts overturned the law establishing the holiday in the capital city of Porto Alegre, claiming unconstitutionality in its application.

National Day of Black Consciousness holiday was recently overturned by courts in Porto Alegre, Rio Grande do Sul – Signs: ” Say no to the holiday”

In less than a year of its application, it was finally on November 24, 2015 that the Justice approved it as a holiday, the Day of Black Consciousness and the Diffusion of Religiousness, much celebrated by the black movement, however leaving racist businessmen and merchants with pains in the elbows.  At the time they tried to file a lawsuit to stop our holiday, but they didn’t succeed. During the voting they still tried to adjust the date for the third Sunday of the month and not the 20th, but that proposal was also defeated. Then the courts put the holiday on November 2nd for federal responsibility, and day 20 was under the jurisdiction of the municipality of Porto Alegre.

Now passing over the rights they conquered with much struggle, they claim that the holiday brings losses to the local economy. According to the magistrate, the date doesn’t represent any indication to be treated as a day of safeguarding, which is not fundamental and meaningless for any religious denomination …

It is at the least absurd such pronouncements. Other holidays celebrating saints and symbols of the homem branco (white man) are not mentioned. The few “spaces” that we have or conquested are seen as a great hindrance to the homem branco. Entrepreneurs claim that they are not against the Day of Black Consciousness, but that they can not suffer damages, as if they themselves were producing or working for this, and not their employees who have been suffering brutal attacked to their rights.

Supporters of the holiday – Sign: “November 20th Holiday: A question of respect and justice”

We’ve seen a turn to the right in these municipal elections, along with the coup scenario that we see in the federal government, which has already begun to apply brutal attacks on every working class, and that has even already pronounced that many rights will be cuta and started taking a holiday of extreme importance to maintain our history alive, such a measure may well serve as an example of what the political line, in this more right-wing context, will be for the oppressed sectors. It may be the quotas at universities tomorrow, and if we don’t come up with an answer, even the right to walk on a sidewalk.

Activists of the Movimento Negro will try to file an appeal with the STF (Supreme Court), claiming that the measure of cutting off the holiday on the 20th is unreasonable, according to information only the city and state can do so and didn’t comment on this. This shows very well the racism embedded in this judicial system, which doesn’t hesitate to punish one of our own, but turns its back, as it always has in giving us what is ours.

Source: Negro Belchior, Esquerda Diario


  1. These two organizations were instrumental in leading the protests of hundreds of thousands in the streets throughout the country calling for the impeachment of President Dilma Rousseff. See more here
  2. Embattled former President Lula da Silva has been at the center of an ongoing investigation of a huge corruption scandal known as Operação Lava Jato, or Operation Car Wash. Over the past several months, da Silva’s face has been consistently plastered on front pages of magazines and newspapers as well being featured as the lead story on TV news journals that continuously delve into the former president’s involvement in the scandal.
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  1. Are you afraid that now you’re going to have to find a job and work? Brazil is moving to the RIGHT direction 🙂 Your celebrations (such as Carnaval, which are useless celebrations that do nothing for the country but bring thousands of sex tourists and encourage miserable behaviors, and diseases like Aids) paid by taxpayer reais will not receive any more public funding by the next year. You’re going to have to get money from private companies in order for them to take place 🙂

    I’m starting to feel like an oppressor… Also, you’re going to have to get into universities by your MERITS, not via privileges such as quotas.

    Don’t worry! This country has become a ‘casa da mãe joana’, and this needs to stop. We will soon have law, order and respect in our society. And by finding a job, you’ll be contributing to make the country a better place. I’m really foreseeing some changes. Can’t wait for Bolsonaro to take office in less than 2 years from now. Not being a racist, but many people in Brazil approve of miserable stuff (carnival, funk music, openly showing off our black women with ‘big butts’, music genres that sexualize our women, etc) under the disguise of ‘defending the culture of blacks’, when the things they’re defending contribute to crime, STDs, prostitution and sex tourism, etc.

    • “Are you afraid that now you’re going to have to find a job and work?”

      you can’t work if they don’t hire you based of skin color

    • You don’t know anything about Black Brazilian History. You are just another average self-centered selfish White person who’s never been the victim of racism throughout his whole life. On the contrary, you have only received benefits and privilege based on it. Black people are going to pay a heavy price for supporting racist right-wingers in Brazil, and your comment already attests to that.

    • You sound criminally stupid and delusional. Look up economics/sociology cause and effect. The slogan “Brazil love or leave it” is applicable in your case, so feel free to jump on the next banana boat back to Europe. And, Bolsonaro is a cartoon character who’s totally unelectable.

      • How do you know he won’t be elected? Wake up. The right is rising in Brazil. In the municipal elections this year, the right won almost all big Brazilian cities and most city countries across the country. Bolsonaro attracts thousands of followers towards him wherever he goes, even in leftist northeastern states. Just watch some of his videos on his Facebook page.

        Why should I go back to Europe? Europeans and Japanese people brought contributions to Brazil that are way more important than some musical instruments, genres, foods, religions that most Brazilians simply look down on and would never follow, and sexualization of women. Brazil would can still be a great country without samba, the foods of African origin, or African music rhythms and dancing. But it would NEVER be great without all the contribution coming from Europeans and Japanese people.

        No wonder the black states in Brazil are shitholes and the ethnically European/Japanese states are the most prosperous and with the highest human development in the country. Most people in Bahia, for example, suck off the governments tits and live on welfare, whilst the South and Southeast sustain the entire country through taxes, including them up north.

  2. I thought you were Brazilian. But with your incoherent rant that lacks any basic factual knowledge about your own country, you pretty much solidified your troll status. LOL!

    • Troll? Lack of knowledge? I’m just speaking facts, the reality. Let’s see in 2018.
      That doesn’t make me ‘unbrazilian’. It seems to me that the truth hurts you.

    • I assume you’re disputing the fact that Brazil would indeed still be able to be a great country without Samba and the African brazilian culture. But what makes you think it wouldn’t? What makes a country great is its economy, its military, its scientists and scientific/technological development, a CIVILIZED culture, etc. Do you think that France, the US, Germany and Japan are great countries because of foods, music genres, big butts, dancing, sports and unpopular religions? I don’t think so. Think about it: which one could make Brazil collapse? Loss of all the Afro-Brazilian culture, or the loss of our economy and companies that were created by the European and Japanese immigrants, as well as our scientists, engineers, doctors and lawyers? It’s very simple. It doesn’t take a rocket scientist to see that big butts, religions that most people in our country don’t even follow, foods, music genres and dancing do not make a country great. We have lots foods/recipes and music genres in Brazil that are not of African origin, so losing the ones that are of African origin wouldn’t mean much to us.

      Also, I should mention that the African influence in Brazil is mostly limited to two states: Bahia and Rio, and to some extent, Pernambuco. People think that the entire country is shaped by Africa because the media makes it seem like Rio and Bahia are the centers of Brazil and everything it has to offer.

      Big butts will never make Brazil a great country.

      People in Southern Brazil, the rest of the Southeast, North (which is primarily of indigenous influence) and the Central/Western parts of the country tend to reject and not even care about African culture, religions, music genres, foods, etc. Go to Mato Grosso or the areas around the capital (Brasilia) and see how many people like anything of African origin (like Samba), or how much African influence they have.

  3. Damn, you’re right. If not for blacks we would be really famous by our scientific breakthroughs, our World famous brands like Perdigao, our world-leading top universities, all that.

    And I’m happy you think Economy is what’s important, as I personally, I think the money stolen by corrupt white politicians affects very little to nothing our economy.

    Finally, thanks a lot for shedding new light on the racial makeup of Brazil. Now I know that apart from Rio and Bahia the rest of the country is predominately European and indigenous. What a revelation!

    • “Now I know that apart from Rio and Bahia the rest of the country is predominately European and indigenous. What a revelation!”

      You seem to be incapable of understanding the difference between African influence and black people. I did not say that black people are only in Rio and Bahia. I said that the African INFLUENCE in Brazil is mostly limited to those regions. And this is a fact. As I said, go any region in the Western, Southern or central parts of the country and you will have a hard time finding anything of African influence there. Just because there are black people in a place doesn’t mean that African influence is present there, as many black people don’t practice African traditions or culture.

      As to the racial makeup, also a fact: most black people in Brazil are in Bahia and Rio. Yes, they are in every state, but most of them are in those two places. The regions that tend to have a lot of African influence and black people are Rio, Bahia and other parts of the Northeast. Even in Sao Paulo, the most populous state, most people are white.

      I say this as a Brazilian who has visited almost every state in this country.

      Go ahead and see the truth for yourself. People in southern, western, northern and central Brazil tend not to adopt any African customs, culture or traditions, and there is little to no African influence in those regions. If I’m lying, then I can’t figure out why I didn’t find any samba in Western Brazil, and why it’s so hard to find anything of African origin (except for people of African descent) there.

      There are several music genres, foods and celebrations in Brazil that are not of African origin and could replace their African counterparts. Sertanejo, for instance, doesn’t have anything to do with Africa and is the most loved and popular music genre in Brazil and I guarantee you people hear it way more often than Samba. But the media keeps showing Rio and Bahia as everything Brazil is about and has to offer, when in reality we’re a very diverse country, with contributions of several different origins.

  4. “I said that the African INFLUENCE in Brazil is mostly limited to those regions. ”

    LOL! That’s a good one! And I thought you’re being serious. It’s a relief to know you’re just joking. Good that we can put this behind us.

    “As to the racial makeup, also a fact: most black people in Brazil are in Bahia and Rio. Yes, they are in every state, but most of them are in those two places.”

    Oh! That’s ANOTHER revelation. Would you please edit stupid Wikipedia for me:

    These bastards put black people all over the place! Damn!

    • I don’t see how your link on Wikipedia disproves anything I said. It actually further backs up everything I said. Look at the list and you’ll see that the highest percentages of black people are indeed in Bahia and Rio. The southern and the other Southeastern states appear as majority-white. So, there’s no revelation.

      You’re still thinking I said black people don’t exist outside of Bahia and Rio, when I’ve already said they do and are in every state, but the difference is that the majority of them are in BA and Rio. There’s a huge difference between “most” and “all/none”.

      If you think I’m joking when I say that the African influence in Brazil is mostly limited to BA, Rio and a few other parts in the Northeast, then well, keep on believing BS 🙂
      The fact is, you will have a very hard time finding anything of African origin or influence in Western, Central, or Southern Brazil. Wake up. Brazil is a huge country. Rio and Eastern BA (or even the entire state of Bahia) do not represent the entire country of ours, just like NY, LA and Miami don’t represent the entire US. And for starters, southern Brazil is majority white. That’s one of the reasons why many southern courts have rejected Black Consciousness Day.

      Go ahead. See how much samba and African influence you can find in Western Brazil, Central Brazil, northern states like Amazonas, and in SP and Southern Brazil. I bet that you will understand what I’m saying.

    • Also, you should distinguish between black people, dark-skinned and African culture. Just because somebody is dark-skinned doesn’t mean he’s of African descent. Many black people don’t practice African traditions or culture at all, so just because there are black people in one place doesn’t mean that African influence must be there.

      And in fact, it’s been shown that most pardos and mulattos (who make up 43% of Brazil’s population) have primarily an Indigenous and European DNA, and had very few African ancestors. But why do they have dark skin? Well, because it was the black genes that expressed. People think that having had an African ancestor makes you of African descent…. well, I agree with that to some extent, because your ancestry includes all people and ethnicities that genetically contributed to making you and who you are today, as well as your genetic makeup. But when you have a genetic lineage comprising of several different races and groups of people, the best thing to do to define your ethnicity is to: 1 – have predominant and close ancestry from a given group of people (in this case, Africans), which means that most of your past ancestors must have been of African descent or very close to pure African descent, 2 – and presenting the physical features of that group on your body (in this case, dark skin, for example). Those two, at the same time. That’s science. That’s genetics. That’s logic. Since pardos and mulattos in Brazil tend to meet one of those two rules but not the other one, then there is no scientific or logical reason to say they’re of African descent. Does the fact that some of them have more European DNA than African DNA make them of European descent? No, because while they may have a lot more of European genetic ancestry than ancestry of any other human group, they do not obey the second rule (which is to physically resemble people of pure European descent, physically looking like Europeans). So what are they then? The answer is simple: mixed. Simple as that. They’re simply mixed, neither African, neither Indigenous, neither European. If we’re going to say that they must be of African descent just because they physically look like black people from Africa (while ignoring the fact that they do not have a predominant or close genetic ancestry with those same people from Africa), then we’re defying all rules of logic and throwing away years of scientific research and facts. Why should their few black ancestors whose genes simply happened to express in them stand out from and have more attention than their other ancestors of European and Indigenous origin? What’s so special about Africa or the African genes that they should decide which ethnicity they REALLY are? Unless you have a predominant or close genetic ancestry with people of pure African descent, then you are not of African descent. When we talk about African/European/or Indigenous descent, we are talking about close and predominant descent. But saying that you’re of African descent when most of your ancestors are from entirely different groups of people (in this case, Europeans and Indigenous people) is a logical and scientific contradiction. Makes no sense at all! You people use the word “ancestry/descent” in “African descent/ancestry”, but forget what the very word implies. It implies genetics and logic. It implies that most of your ancestors must have been pure African or close to pure Africans in order for you to really be of African descent.

      • OK dude, next time the police threatens to shoot “mixed-raced” should they try to present their DNA admixture test? “Don’t shoot me! I’m 63% European!” Maybe that was what Amarildo should have done, who knows.

  5. You are full of crap, Lucas …

    But gringo blog owner, your political grasp is ignorant. The pt is mostly white, their demonstrations are mostly white, George bush had more black people in his cabinet than Dilma or Lula .

    The evangelical march for Jesus had more black people than pt demonstrators , the police repressing white blac block, and red flag violent demonstrations has more black people..

    Most black Brazilians know politics is a white game, and , in truth the red flags treat black Brazilians like Lenin called ” useful idiots ” , the violent demonstrator pay black criminals to do violent acts, a fact I read about in two different cities, corrupt mst gives demonstrators money and a balony sandwich to protest…

    Your ignorance is showing , and. I question many of the blogs you are using as references , that they don’t represent how most black Brazilians feel..

    Racism is serious in Brazil, ignorance of the political situation to make a point just reveals an underlying agenda that will fall short of the real objectives to face racism,

    I respect much of what you write, but, your underlying willingness to engage notions sexual exploitation referring to passistas, or , implications when talking of colorism of interracial sex as factor contributing to colorism , make me not trust your judgement

  6. Hello again “In Brazil”…

    I see you’ve returned with your usual comments and accusations. Let me address them once again. And before I get into responses, let me first say that you can criticize anything as you have that right. But it is a bit contradictory when you want to criticize but then try to belittle the criticisms of others, which, as you yourself already said, it appears to be an agenda. As long as you remain respectful, feel free to make comments on this blog. But this is MY blog and I reserve the right to choose which articles I will post as well as sharing my own views and if I disagree with your opinion, I disagree with your opinion. As I always tell others, you are free to create your own blog to disseminate your views, but you WILL NOT come here and think that I will change the contents of the material because you don’t like it or disagree. With that said, I will move on to your comments.

    “Either you get passistas, a word now challenged by these biased blog references and commenters , and will defend them as the high art they are , against ridiculous attacks , or , your lack of defense gives a forum for uptight attacks on these incredible artists”

    Here’s my thing, I DO respect passistas. They are often some of the most beautiful women in Brazil, have incredible rhythm and are indeed masters of the art form. On the other side of this issue is the globalization of the sexualized imagery that represents an introduction to pornography. As much as their art deserves respect, we cannot simply ignore the fact that year after year, these are the images that men around the world see and accept as stereotypes of Brazilian women, especially black women. In a global culture that has been directed toward images of sex and violence it would be irresponsible to consider these facts. How many thousands of men come to Brazil based on what they saw in Carnaval? Whether you know it or not, the global elite use such images to actually control populations and Brazil is no different from any other country. There is no one way to look at any type of issue. Almost every issue we analyze has its negative and positive attributes and if you think I will blindly accept all facets of passistas images, you are mistaken. I will continue to view these images from both sides. Several years ago I worked on a project with a black media specialist from Salvador, Bahia. We worked together on a flyer representing black culture in Brazil for distribution at a journalist conference in the US. I created a flyer using the images of capoeira, samba and futebol. He rejected it because he wanted to move beyond this stereotypical image of black Brazilians. He preferred images that promoted them in the areas of media and technology. This is partially my view on passistas. Black women are more than passistas and until we have more images that balance out the stereotype of what a black woman is, I will continue to speak on the negative aspects of such representation.

    “Just recently a blog reference of yours complained of rolling butt on tv….this is Bunda culture down here. National preference , while people outside are satisfied with Hollywood displaying naked men’s asses , here in brazil , naked bunda is accepted in life and’s a good thing…”

    So what? Even if 99% of Brazilians agree with what you call “bunda culture” you have no right to try to stifle the 1% of dissent. Displaying men’s asses? For me, ALL forms of public displays of sexuality should be questioned. I once fell for this trap of rejecting certain expressions of public sexuality while accepting others. I now know that you cannot reject one without rejecting the other as they all come from the same sources. Also, as I stated in a previous article, the idea that only Brazil worships the bunda is a huge fallacy. Go to any black American neighborhood and you will realize this. On your view that “naked bunda is a good thing”…My questioning and criticism has nothing to do with being uptight. It is simply knowing Cultural Marxism when I see it and Brazil HAS always used sexuality as a method of manipulation of the public. I don’t have time to educate you on this, because if you’ve never read Gramsci’s work it would be a waste of time explaining this.

    “despite iver sixty percent brazilians think brazilian women are to blame if thet get raped jf they wore something sexy…”

    I am NOT included in that manner of thought so there’s no need to point this out…

    “militant feminist views on this, get really uptight about things like that when violence towards women is a much more important issue.”

    I don’t agree with all aspects of feminism but there are some things I agree with. Violence against women is a huge issue that can never be discussed enough but so are representations of the “place of women” which often leads to such violence in the first place. And the influence of “bunda culture” and Carnaval CANNOT be excluded from this discussion.

    “Unfortunatly , the prejudice if the media limits how we see the culture, but, bare bunda, and shaking hips arnt the problem…this uptightness seeps in your blog…if you really defend the art of the passista , you would rise up and defend their art…”

    I’ve already discussed this in my above comments and it has nothing to do with “uptightness”. Once upon a time I didn’t take issue with the promotion of sex and violence until I discovered what the driving force behind it was and where it is leading society. If you don’t see this, it’s not for me to show you. We will probably never see eye to eye on this issue but I would encourage you to look at both sides of the debate. Have you honestly done this? Because I have.

    “your papo ended up implicating interracial sex , relationships and marriage talking about how colorism worked in this desician .”

    If you’re not willing to analyze the historic influence on interracial unions, how they came about and why they were and are promoted in Brazil, there’s no reason to discuss this issue. I have included a number of posts on this issue and it appears that you disagree. That’s fine, but if that’s the case, there’s nothing else to discuss here.

    “You tried to hook it up with slavery, how the babies of the master were more accepted, and how later the lightening process pushed by the system favored light skin..I say these notions are ridiculous …look in the prisons , filled with light skin and dark skin people, the lightening process never worked , it only marginalized a lot of light skin afro descendants”

    As I have shown in a number of posts, I agree that pretos and pardos are often in the same social situation,but I also see where colorism in a MAJOR factor in how Brazilians see themselves. Nothing ridiculous about this. It is FACT.

    “just like there are digs who think the passistas are for sex”

    I would say that there are probably millions who think this way.

    “Colorism happens sometimes , it isn’t the leading problems”

    I disagree. Colorism is a MAJOR issue in Brazil. Numerous studies show how the mind of the Brazilian functions on this topic. From the time a baby is born and people pray that the children have lighter skin and straighter hair, to chances of being hired for a job, colorism plays a HUGE role in Brazilian society. I won’t debate this issue.

    “there is a disturbing noise coming from the deeper part of the black militant activist dogma , that doesn’t represent main scream black activist agenda, that starts scrutinizing interracial sex, black people who have relationships with white people , mix race children, and starts belittling them and excluding them”

    Again, I will say there is NOTHING that is above analysis and scrutiny. People are free to be with whoever they choose, but under a system of white supremacy, interracial unions don’t improve the situation of blacks as a group for numerous reasons.

    “These things I will go after and challenge.”

    Feel free to challenge, but if you continue to make the same points I won’t feel compelled to always respond. First if we disagree there’s no reason to continue the debate and second, it’s a waste of time.

    “By the way, you are the one who blocked my comments , which automatically makes me not trust you…”

    First of all, I never asked you trust me. I don’t know you and you don’t know me. And as I read your comments, I DO approve them. If I don’t approve a comment it’s because of a few reasons. 1) Disrespectful language. 2) One comment is the same as a previous comment. 3) I haven’t read it completely or at all.

    “I fight against white racism , not against white people”

    In fact, that’s how I see it. The problem is that most white people won’t admit to harboring racist views.

    Now, as I’ll already stated, after reading and responding to several of your comments, I can see that we disagree on a few topics. Just so you know, I have spent time responding to these comments and your accusations. Feel free to continue commenting but if your comments are the same don’t expect that I will always respond because I have already responded to them. Thus, in future comments on passistas and interracial unions, please refer to these comments and previous articles to understand where I stand.

    That’s all for now.
    Thank you.

  7. Good luck with your message! And I have never been on an “ivory tower”. The fact that I speak on issues that people often don’t want to deal with proves this. As I am not the one promoting cultural Marxism nor do I have the power to do so, your accusation of being in an ivory tower is somewhat ridiculous. I think such a comment would apply much more to a company such as Globo TV that has been manipulating the Brazilian public for more than 50 years. Your struggle shouldn’t be with me.

    But always remember something.

    The same power structure controls finance, media, government, technology, social media, academia, medicine and so many other areas, so be very careful with your perceptions. They could be manufactured and thus making you a victim of what you think you’re fighting against.

  8. “cultural marxism…” wow, and you got that from a book, but , have to hide it from me, because you say i just wont get it.

    look . im not trying to have the last word here, but, i pegged you right…you are going to lash out at depictions of passistas, and , culture, based on intellecualised books…when i sayyou are engulfed in the university haze, and uptight, its so true…you let white feminists define sexuality for you…or some european notions of sex, i dont trust european thinking to define sexuality as far as i can throw a book…same with black american males or female activists buying into that mentality to bulk up their agenda..

    sorry but “no , it is just a fact…” on issues of passistas or inter-racial sex doesnt cut it, there is so much stigmatasation and cookie cutter pegging in your arguments , it really buries the complexity of these issues..

    to be uptight about a passista in a pôster or add because millions of tourists will see it and come to brazil for sex, is just plain frightening logic to put out here..

    you have to make an effort to get anywhere near a passista, i guarentee you, most passistas wont get hit on by these tourists, most naked booty women on the beach wont give these dogs, if they hit on them the time of day…what a generalisation to think all these tourists are thinking this way about passistas…

    this tourist looking for a sex orgy with passistas, is a giant bad generalisation

    the passista in an add is no differant than a bolhsoi ballet dancer in tights in add for russia….the passista is a cultural icon, and only uptight people start seeing it as historicly culturaly demeaning sexual exploitation..

    what is needed ismore tv shows documenting the passista, and people showing its art , and pushing for more places to see the passitas year round , not just the sedes in rio…and horrible tv shows they have now..

    and “cultual marxism”? hardly, sensuality you find in brazil is one of the most mentaly healthful thing men and women can indulge in, it is good for mental health, not uptight represion.

    .pelvic thrusts are a serious componente of afro diasporic dancing

    for all your good intentions, and , i do beleive you have good intentions, but, your take on passistas, and what the bare bunda and hip shaking representes in your lacking “historic background” , actualy goes more to repressing and destroying this incredable culture, that actualy needs to be saved…you can join the millions of brazilians and uptights in the world who dont like the art of the passista( i note you say you like them, but your university haze and a few books have pursuaded you to rail against the “sexual exploitation from the White system) “, and would like to see it off the adds and tv and eliminated all together….very disheartining to hear a black american activist join in with uptight religous atitudes, uptight feminists, authors who i wouldnt trust, defining cultural marxism doing back flips to show selling sex is cultural marxism, sounds like another person i wouldny trust to define my sexuality.

    as far as inter-racial sex and your colorism rational to justify ranking on it, just like with the passistas, you, and other militant black americans who talk this, are just thowing black men and women under the bus and destroying culture…you are going back to the carcases of the late sixties black revolution , cherry picking over the bonés , with no retrospecto of which things were really valuable and what was bs…and there was bs..

    some black american activists ranked on tap dancing, a black american innovation, calling it shucking and jiving, its never recoverd…some black american activists ranked on louis Armstrong and called him na uncle tom…this destroys culture…and, they never went back and said they were wrong…not one bit…and this is what is going on here ….youjust dont care if you destroy the art of the passista, because some intellectuals wrote books, who dont understand this culture one bit, and you are going with them, and some activist not well thought out rhetoric…

    i knowim wearing out my time on your blog, and, i do respect your blog and hope to not come in…of course id like to respond to anything that you might argue…but, we are at serious odds about some small importante details , and, my battle , as is yours is real life out here, and i will battle for passistas and stand up tall for inter-racial sex, families and relationships , and the blackmen and women who will be harrassed for their choices

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